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09 February 2009 @ 04:30 pm
A second look at the series that is Supernatural...  


We were bored last night with the shows on TV and were just hanging around trying to figure out what to watch.  Then my husband has the idea to start Supernatural all over again because of the hiatus, so we started from the beginning.  Is it completely crazy that we know the outcome of all the episodes, but we still sit up until ungodly hours of the night watching seven straight hours of it until we cannot keep our eyes open, only to wake up completely exhausted about four hours later to haul ourselves to work?

I figured out a lot, as far as why I don’t like the series as much as I used to.  We were watching it and my husband just goes, “Wow, remember when this show used to be really good?”  I came to the conclusion that the following reasons are why I don’t like the show as much as I originally did.  At first, I thought it was due to watching it week to week because we didn’t start that until the third season.  Season one and two were watched on DVD.  Then I blamed the hiatus.  By watching the first season, here is what I came to find out:


-  The show used to be somewhat fun.  There was always that overall darkness to it, but there was an element of fun in it.  Right now, it seems to be getting more and more dark every week and as much as I like that because it’s a dark show, I need a little light.  I blame a lot of this on the change in Dean’s character.  Even in season two, he was still somewhat a shadow of his first season fun self, but after John died, he kind of fell apart.  That, I could handle.  But when Sam died and the whole deal went down, his character became far too sad for me to handle.  I couldn’t associate him with the same character in the first season, which mind you, was when I was a major Dean girl.  And it’s not like I don’t understand why he’s as sad as he is now, but something needs to happen.

-  The show used to be focused on the family.  I really loved that aspect because it showed the passion behind what they were doing more.  Even in season two, I didn’t have a problem with them introducing Ellen and Jo because they were connected to John somehow.  It all seemed to flow together for me.  Honestly, I really liked Bela and Ruby, but I think they overkilled them.  I think if they would have left Ruby where she was at the end of season three, it would have been great because it would have been a fabulous exit and it would have been enough of her character to have made her an interesting piece, but not too much of distraction in the overall show. 

- The whole angels vs. demons thing is beginning to get on my nerves.  They never should have brought the angels into the show, as far as I can see right now.  Anyone who knows me knows I’m Catholic and believe in a lot of stuff others don’t, but I knew the second I saw Castiel’s wings that it was going to be an issue.  It throws in that whole good vs. evil thing in which has everyone wondering which side which one of the characters are going to be on.  I don’t like that they pit the boys against one another at all like that.  When you have characters that are that close (ex: Mulder and Scully; Buffy, Willow, and Xander; Harry, Ron, and Hermione), I always find it hard to see them used in that fashion.  I think it forces the fandom to take sides.  So now, to a lot of people, it’s Dean and the angels vs. Sam and the demons.  You all know I love evil Sam, but I don’t want him to actually be evil!  I don’t want this to turn into Cain and Abel.  How about we just take the angels and repetitive demons (I love you Ruby and Castiel, but I would rather you hang in the background) out of the main area of the show and focus on killing Lilith and figuring out what the YED’s master plan is?  We got a taste of that at the end of ‘The Kids are Alright’ and ‘In the Beginning’.  Can we get some more?  That would pull the whole family aspect back, for me at least. 

- When I first started watching the show, I wasn’t on any online groups or forums associated with it.  Well, we all know that has changed.  Like a lot of us have experienced or at least seen, the fandom wank is something that can make the show a sour experience for us.  I’m so happy that I wasn’t online when I season two was airing and everyone ripped Jo’s character apart because I really enjoyed that character.  There is only one place online that I know I can go and will not have to deal with that (SVS, cough), which I find terribly sad.  When I got into the show, I started going online reading fanfics, seeing artwork, and watching videos, which are all awesome forms of creativity and I love that aspect of the fandom.  After a while though, I was just bombarded with extreme negativity, mostly bashing any females on the set and a LOT of crap towards Jensen.  I know that there is always going to be negativity, but a good portion of this fandom makes all of us look insane to the people outside of it.  The entertainment industry opens people to all kinds of judgment, but I find being downright cruel about things and taking personal shots at people to be really unnecessary.  It’s one thing to critique acting or something related to show, but there are so many things that are just people trying to figure out how to personally attack the actors themselves.  The thing I find kind of interesting about all of that is that the people that do the show have always been good to the fans in real life.  They must have the real thick skin.  I don’t know how nice a person I would be if I was reading some of the stuff that people post about oh, let’s see, Jensen, Genevieve, Lauren, Katie, etc…

- I miss the music!  Next to the boys and the Impala, I always felt the music was a strong part of the show.  Last night, I watched the pilot and it had three classic rock songs in it that I can remember (there may have been more) and they were placed in a manner that made them practically a presence in the show.  They weren’t just there for background, they were fit so well for the scenes and made for a strong addition.  I’m aware of the fact that they have been in the show over seasons three and four, but I just feel they haven’t been as strong.

- There used to be a scarier feel to this show.  For those of you that have watched Buffy and X-Files, I feel there is an easy way to explain this.  I never found Buffy to be ‘scary’, but I found the X-Files to be.  If you have seen both shows, I think you would already understand.  For those that have not, Buffy always was less scary to me because the vampires and monsters to me basically got their asses kicked by the strong slayer, who, pretty much, couldn’t get hurt.  Buffy was a lot more fun and I’m not saying that in a bad way.  It worked with Buffy and is something that made me love that show.  With X-Files, there seemed to be more victimization and overall eeriness.  When that show originally aired when I was younger, if I heard the theme song, I would get scared.  Also, Mulder and Scully were more real and relatable as law enforcement agents, whereas, Buffy had super strength and was hard to relate  to a lot of people because of the lifestyle she was forced to lead as the Slayer.  Back to the point, I watched ‘Bloody Mary’ last night and literally was hiding behind the covers.  The show made me jump and had a chance to give me nightmares.  The show is still kind of scary, but it has certainly lost its eeriness.  I’m not one of those that is squeamish, but I don’t find gore to be scary.  At times, it’s appropriate in this genre, just due to the nature, but the creepiness of the show has been lost a bit.  The episode ‘Family Remains’ had an eerie feel to me in the beginning when I thought the children were ghosts, but was lost once they were found to be human.  Then it just went in a completely different direction.

Okay, I’m done.  Of course, after I am done with this, I’ll see something I would have rather worded a different way or mentioned something else, but bear in mind that this is done while in a passionate mood about it, so things will always look like they could have been written better. 

I love the show, that’s obvious, but I hope some things change a bit.  I’ve basically cut the wank out of my routine because although it is incredibly easy to look at that, because of my evil curiosity, I would rather focus on the fun stuff and talk with fans that would like to talk about the show and not rip on it.  One main thing I hope is that I don’t want the show to write the boys into Cain and Abel mode and I am really curious to see how Kripke pulls off that ending he has talked about where they end on a good note.  I don’t see how that is going to happen right now, but hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised.

I feel: indifferentindifferent
I'm listening to: Did my Time by Korn
Savannahbooxradley on February 9th, 2009 10:53 pm (UTC)
i kind of agree with everything that you said.
and i'm glad i'm not the only one that feels that the whole angel deal feels like too much,
and i really don't like the whole good vs. evil and the eventual choosing sides thing.
there's more i want to say, but i'll just end up ranting, haha.
but yeah, i love hearing other peoples thoughts like this, cause i think about the different things i like and don't like, etc, often, as well.
fangedsekhmet: evil sammichfangedsekhmet on February 9th, 2009 11:05 pm (UTC)
Me too, the second Castiel turned up I was like, aw nuts, because regardless of how the show treats them I knew religion was about to drag itself into a show I preferred to remain fairly ambiguous. Religion makes me uneasy and the instant slew of Dean angel fics and pictures really got on my nerves. I kind of hope Castiel's a Demon in disguise and that Sam turns out to be the saviour of the world, just to show that the grey areas are equally valid to the whole good verse evil.

To be honest, I can't help feeling fandom (certain parts) will tear itself apart bickering if the brothers get into fighting on two sides. I'm seeing bits of it already.
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johnnyjoshjohnnyjosh on February 9th, 2009 11:04 pm (UTC)
I agree with most of what you've said here. Ruby should have made her exit in a blaze of glory, bringing her back, and tossing angels in there...well it's just getting a little overblown imho XD. I don't like the Cain and Abel angle either, I miss the fun, and the family that really drew me in and kept me coming back for more.
And I've felt that the boys have kind of been sidelined, we keep hearing about YED's plan, and Lilith, but we don't have that mad dash to stop the villain and their evil plans we had in previous seasons. I liked the way the boys used to charge in there and do their thing, now they're just kind of getting reports from the new characters and it frustrates me a little.
I miss the days of Sam and Dean racing off in the Impala to save the world, together, emotionally as well as physically, to the beat of some classic hard rock tune *chuckles*.
Lady Manson: spn - dean jess its aliveladymanson on February 10th, 2009 12:34 am (UTC)
I TOTALLY agree with you! Especially about them being sidelined.
jessm78jessm78 on February 9th, 2009 11:19 pm (UTC)
Wow, I think you nailed how I feel about the show now and the reasons why, pretty much.

I know what you're saying with regard to the whole angels vs. demons thing. I'm Catholic too, and I didn't think I'd have a problem with that element in the show when I first heard about it, but I don't like how they're using it to pit brother against brother myself.

I also miss the family aspect, the music, and the creepiness of the first two seasons. And I agree about Ruby. I really don't like her very much this season. I agree it would have been better if they'd left her the way she was at the end of season 3.

The wank drives me nuts too. I started watching in mid season 2, and I wasn't part of the online fandom at the time. Sometimes I find I have to step back from it just to get the bad taste of wank out of my mouth. I really don't want it to ruin my experience too much.

I hope they change things too. I still like the show, don't get me wrong, but it is missing that certain something that I really enjoyed in seasons 1 and 2.

Great post. :)
Lady Manson: spn - sam contentladymanson on February 10th, 2009 12:35 am (UTC)
Oh, thank you very much. It's so nice to actually have good conversation with people about the show. :-)
bodgeibodgei on February 9th, 2009 11:26 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I agree. In all honisty I thought I would really like the Angel thing, my mom is a minister and I've spent a long time reading about Angels. I even started a novel about a man who was a Host for an Angel.

They haven't done anything interesting with it. Nothing has been suprising. They even intorduced Urial (a *compleatly* ambiguois Angel - Prince of Tarturus, Angel of distruction. An Angel who actuly tourtured Souls) and haven't done anything interesting with him. I hope all this ends up with shades of gray - or heck, even have Sam be going down the right road...
Lady Manson: spn - dean geekladymanson on February 10th, 2009 12:37 am (UTC)
I love your 'shades of gray' statement because I feel very much the same way.
cassopeiacassopeia on February 9th, 2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
Your second look is really interesting, can't say that I share your opinion but I definitely admire you for watching 7 hours of TV that's beyond my ability. Just curious but what's your favorite season so far? I know it's not gonna be season 4, that's obvious but do you like the story arc of season 1 or 2 more? It's also interesting that you are fan of Buffy and X-files, a lot of Supernatural seem to come from the fantasy genre. Don't hit me but I think it's funny that I wouldn't watch X-files, it bores me, but I loved Whedon's Buffy, not all seasons but some. I'm one of the fans that love season 4, it's on the best way to become my favorite season, at the moment it's still season 2, season 1 was too X-files for my taste but if we get season 5 maybe you'll like it more. I just wanted to say that's it completely understandable why you don't like this season, happens with a lot of shows, if the reasons for starting to watch a show are changed too much by the creators, you just get the feeling that the show has lost it's original feeling.
Lady Manson: spn - dean hit the deckladymanson on February 10th, 2009 12:21 am (UTC)
Re: Wow
Yeah, about the seven hours...it happens when you are nursing a hangover and can't get off the couch, lol.

Oh, I love the X-Files, but I know how some people wouldn't. I personally hated it at first and then my husband got me WAY into it. And when it comes to that show, I loved the monster episodes, but hated the conspiracy ones, which is why I think I like SPN so much. It's X-Files without the damn aliens! And season one of SPN was totally X-Files. I talk about how a good amount of the SPN episodes have very obvious scenes and plots taken straight from that show.

So far, my favorite season was season two because I loved the crossroads demon mythology. I'm a mythology geek in general and when they brought up black dogs, I was like,"Oh, sweet!" Plus, I just think there were a lot of great episodes in that season that I could watch over and over again.

Completely off topic, what is your icon of? I'm drawn to it and I don't even know why...
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alleysweeperalleysweeper on February 9th, 2009 11:44 pm (UTC)
I know I'm gonna get slammed for this, but...

I wish Bobby would just, I don't know. Retire? Go away? Not be available?

Don't get me wrong. I love him. Who couldn't. Especially the last episode with the apron and the bank of phones. But that's all I want to see of him. Not all this "Oh, a headline. I'll call Bobby while you get lunch." crap. Now they also need an demon and an angel to to lay out a case?

Like you, I miss my season one smart boys who stuck together. Maybe not for the same reasons, but miss them just the same.

Rock On!
Lady Manson: spn - sam puppy droolladymanson on February 10th, 2009 12:38 am (UTC)
Um, no, you're not getting slammed for it. I couldn't agree more. I love having that background Bobby in the show like last week. The part with the phones was great. But having him on SO much, especially how they did in the beginning of this season, was getting a bit overboard, in my opinion.
cinco: Samcinco_series on February 10th, 2009 12:35 am (UTC)
I agree with most of your thoughts.

I'm also a huge fan of Buffy (even the current season 8 in comics). Sam reminds me of Willow. Two young and adorable geeks in season 1. Then, they discovered their powers and they went dark. I hope Sam (like Willow) will end fighting with the good guys.

In season 1 (and 2), Dean reminds me of a mix between Xander and Spike. Now, he's more like Angel (especially Angel in s5) searching some sort of redemption and always with his sad face.

About the music, it's a question of money. And since The CW is spendig all its money on shows like Gossip Girl or 90210, there is nothing left for Supernatural to afford the cost of using good music.
Lady Manson: spn - sam w/his beerladymanson on February 10th, 2009 12:43 am (UTC)
I like your character comparisons there - that's awesome. Especially the Sam/Willow one. And yeah, I know the whole money issue with the music. We actually talked about that last night when we were watching it. When I went to the panel at Comic Con last July, someone actually asked if they were going to use a ton of music again like the first season and they all seemed really positive about it, so you'd think budget wise, they would realize that the fans love that aspect of the show as well and try to fit something in, you know? That is what really sucks about budgets though.
lovetheguyslovetheguys on February 10th, 2009 12:39 am (UTC)
I agree about the wank, definitely. If something stops being fun, I exit--not the show, but where the wank is. I don't participate in such negativity. It makes me depressed, and I take pills against that.

I love SUPERNATURAL, Jensen and Jared. Period. I have from ep #1. Yes, the show has changed. I expected it would. I'm going with the flow because I'm fascinated by the story--still. I have little use for religion, I'm not even sure I believe in God. Like Dean, I want proof. I think Dean and Sam's love for each other is going to save the day on SPN. I can't wait to see it happen.

I love every single season of this show. Sure, I miss more rock music. They can't afford it! I accept that, even if it disappoints me. The CW doesn't appreciate this gem, never has. Fuck 'em. At least they're keeping it on the air.

I'm sorry you aren't as happy with SUPERNATURAL as you used to be. I'm loving it as much as ever, even more so because I can't wait to see where we're going. I'm so proud of the strides Jensen and Jared have taken in their acting chops, especially Jared.

If we get a 5th year, it will be the last. Five golden years, and done. I will miss it SO much.

Love, Robin
Lady Manson: spn - dean jess its aliveladymanson on February 10th, 2009 12:48 am (UTC)
Oh, I'm so glad you posted! Seriously, you're just awesome and I love your love for this show so much! I'm not kidding at all, you rock. :-)

And if we get that fifth year and it's the last, I know I'll still watch the damn thing over and over again from first to last season on DVD cuz I'm just such a geek over this show. I still love it, I just hope it doesn't turn into something completely different. Like Kripke has always said, he wants it to only go the five years. And as much as I would love it to go longer, just so I could watch it more, I also understand that.

Again, I just love when you answer my posts. :-)
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vastian_steelvastian_steel on February 10th, 2009 12:57 am (UTC)
I agree with you - it's nice to see someone bringing up this topic.

I'm pretty much okay with angel and devil situation though I do find at times they're overdoing it and that sort of put me off. First Castiel, then Uriel and then there's Anna.

There's also the addition of Ruby. I think she would've great with just one season's worth of appearance - and leaving in a blaze of glory. I feel that Genevieve is not suitable for the role - she's like tofu when compared to Katie's hard-ass Ruby. For some reason, to me that is, her appearance is almost as irritating as scratching one fingernails across the chalkboard. I think it might have something do her expression or something entirely else.

To top it off, they'd had both Sam and Dean making out with a demon and an angel respectively. Good grief. I actually skip through that part.

I guess what's bothering me is that they're bringing more and more new characters and it's turning the show into a soap opera. It would've been great if they could just stick to what drew people to Supernatural in the first place - ghost-hunting and saving people, and the dynamics between two brothers.

These days, I'm seeing more drama and angels and demons, rather then enjoying the show because it had a pair of hot brothers tackling urban legends and myths.
Lady Manson: spn - dean paperladymanson on February 10th, 2009 01:02 am (UTC)
I guess what's bothering me is that they're bringing more and more new characters and it's turning the show into a soap opera. It would've been great if they could just stick to what drew people to Supernatural in the first place - ghost-hunting and saving people, and the dynamics between two brothers.

Okay, you just said in that short bit what I wrote in that big thing in my LJ. :-) You explain things better than me!

Yeah, overall, if the whole part it's in now gets back to them being brothers and hunting things, I'll be happy.
bodgeibodgei on February 10th, 2009 01:12 am (UTC)
OK that's weird, it wouldn't let me reply to your reply...

I really hope they come into an interesting conclusion to this, becasue at this point I'm finding it a bit dull...
Sweetie: SPN - Not Ready - crystalkirksweetiejen on February 10th, 2009 05:28 am (UTC)
Thank you so much for this entry. I agree 100% with what you've said. I've been very dissatisfied with this season (since Lazarus Rising - hated it, actually, and still can't believe people think it's the Best Episode Ever). There have been some shining moments here and there. I felt like the most recent episode was very well done with a standout script. But then there were episodes 9, 10, and 11 and I have to wonder if those were even part of the same show. Particularly Family Remains - that was just an embarrassment to the series, IMO.

Anyway, it's funny you write this post now, as I've been ripping light-hearted clips from the earlier seasons for a video I'm working on. I just got this overwhelming sense of sadness and nostalgia in seeing the way things used to be. I'm really in the same boat as you, considering I also watched S1 & S2 on DVD (this past summer) and then watched S3 online. I too was wondering if my disenchantment with the season had to do with not watching it all at once. *shrug* I don't think so though, as there are too many issues I can pinpoint. Ruby, for one. She's terrible this season. The angels stuff (I adore Castiel and the dynamic Misha brings to the character, but I'm just not behind the religion in the show... again, like you, I'm Catholic but it doesn't feel right in Supernatural). The Anna character was horribly executed. And above all, I miss the brotherly love. I just know the season is going to end with a showdown between them and I'm really not looking forward to it. I have this fear that Kripke's gonna end it on a cliffhanger with the boys hating each other, and then the show won't get picked up for S5 and we'll be left with that awfulness, lol. But that's just my pessimistic side talking.

ANYWAY, wow, I'm rambling like a fool here. To wrap this up, I agree with everything you said. Hee! :)

PS: Yay SVS! I've been posting there much more often lately. It's such a wonderful place, not to mention, drama-free! Thanks for introducing me to it.
Lady Manson: spn - deanquirkyladymanson on February 10th, 2009 03:55 pm (UTC)
Hi Sweetie!

I’m glad you commented. I just love your vids and am so glad you have started (well, you’ve done them for a bit) vidding SPN.

That searching through clips can do that to you. It certainly does to me as well because I always fall victim to watching scenes when I cut clips. I agree very much with you on the disenchantment of not watching the series all at once. It’s one thing that kind of keeps my hopes up when I see stuff I don’t like, because that has happened to me with shows before, especially when they have hiatuses. I was a HUGE fan of The Sopranos when it was on the air, but it would literally go a year and do maybe seven or eight episodes and then go on break again. When it all ended, we started watching it on DVD and found that watching the whole series like a big story was much more rewarding. That also happened to me with Friday Night Lights in that it was rewarding watching them all at once, so far, but I have actually loved every single moment of that show, so I can’t complain about it at all. DVD sets have made me impatient.

As far as this season, I liked the first episode, but saying it’s the best one ever isn’t something I would agree with. I did think it was a good opener to the season however. The last two have been really good, but ‘After School Special’ pulled in a lot from their past, which I am a major sucker for.
nikkisilvernikkisilver on February 10th, 2009 03:14 pm (UTC)
I don't know what SVS is but it sounds like a place I should visit! I'm going to try and find it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

I thought this was a very interesting post. You thought everything out and didn't have knee-jerk reactions to things.

For the most part, I'm very happy with this season. (Though it has my least favorite episode in the entire series in it -- I swear, it felt like a bad fanfic with the boys pushed to the side for a character we don't know or even really like and then she even had non-passionate sex with Dean. Whatever.) I like that the brothers are having problems because I believe they will come back from it even stronger. However, if it goes on for too long I will become unhappy, too. The show is about them and their relationship to me. It is the reason I watch. If they mess it up too much... this is me, sad. ::sad::

I'm also very sad to see that the internet rags on Jensen. WHY? He puts his heart and soul into that show. The chemistry he has with Jared is one of the reasons that the relationship between the Winchesters seems so real. What could people say again him? ::shakes head:: As I've never read anything I don't feel I can comment besides I think you're right -- it is okay not to like something but do you really have to tear it apart? I don't think so.

Again, thank you for the great post.
Lady Manson: spn - joker angleladymanson on February 10th, 2009 04:05 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the comments on how I actually set up the writing in this. I was really nervous because people could end up really angry with me and I didn’t want to sound like I was just spewing negativity, as I still love the show, but had some points to bring up.

SVS rocks. Go to this link to check it out. Everyone there is really nice and we all really respect one another’s opinions, which I find important.


I like your bad fanfic comment. I kind of had that feeling last season, but then the way they did the last half of the season and wrapped it up made me enjoy it more, so I hope that is how it turns out with this one. I already have enjoyed the last two episodes more, so hopefully.

jaylan121 on February 10th, 2009 06:25 pm (UTC)
First of all let me say I agree with 99.9% of what you say
This is exactly why I began to have less love & less enthusiasm towards the show
Fandom wank, personal attacks towards fellow fans & actors/actresses, more angels vs demons crap, Zero brotherly love this season, less family theme, no brotherly humor, etc
But I never knew there was a lot of negativity towards Jensen?
During which season was that & what did they say?

I thought they only bashed Jared (which is downright awful as well) & any female known to God on the show except for Ellen 'cause she's never gonna hookup with any of the boys
Lady Manson: spn - sam uk promo hotladymanson on February 10th, 2009 09:01 pm (UTC)
First off, I LOVE your icon! I didn't see all the little masks clearly at first (it's not the icon, I was just really tired), and love them. Yeah, the wank, ugh. The Jensen stuff that I heard happened before season four. That was when I started paying attention to it, so it could have been earlier as well, but it was just a bunch of personal attacks.
sn_143snsn_143sn on February 10th, 2009 08:35 pm (UTC)
jensen was bashed online? i think i musta missed that one...and here i thought it was only jared who got bashed...it's really sad that some people just feel the need to say bad things about other people...

actually for me, it works if they are gonna have a showdown.it'd be kewl. but i agree with many of the points you have made. supernatural used to be a show about everything ,family ,loyalty, love, scare, fun, humorous, sexy and just everything. now even the times they have some fun, it's too dark to really be able to enjoy it. i dunno , like the humor feels more ..forced,you say...

i like the aspects of demons and angels...but too much revolves around them now for my liking. but still hey...i just got hooked on it recently....and i still don't hate it. i love the show and hope things will settle down after the showdown

Lady Manson: spn - dean castiel shut upladymanson on February 10th, 2009 09:04 pm (UTC)
Ooh, you got hooked on it recently, that's cool. I always like to talk to people that just got into the show. :-) I swear, EVERYONE gets bashed online because there is always someone who wants to talk crap about people about something. I'm not one of those people and am really glad that my morbid curiousity is lessening towards those things. I like the whole 'forced' humor thing you mentioned, I agree with that.
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heali.amortentia_x on February 12th, 2009 10:02 am (UTC)
I've only seen two episodes of the fourth season, so I can't really comment on that, but I did enjoy them :) I have to say though, I thought season three wasn't as good as the first two and I'd heard a lot of good things about season four, so I'm hoping it's back up to par. But I love reading other people's views on it :)

I also heard that Jensen receive a lot of crap at one point and I've never really understood why :/